Type   “Illuminati” into an Internet search engine and you will wind up with an impossible aggregation too numerous and contradictory to be useful. A search on Ask.com yields 1.4 million entries, while the same at Google produces 12 million entries, and at Yahoo gives 33 million entries! A small percentage of these deal with genuine historical documents and reliable research by reputable scholars, but the vast majority, unfortunately, deal in fanciful fiction (of the sci-fi or mystery-action-adventure variety) or misinformation and deliberate disinformation posing as fact and serious scholarship.

One of the most frequent “experts” on the subject to appear in Internet searches is New Age guru David Icke, who posits that the Illuminati are shape-shifting reptilian humanoids from the star system Draco! However, it is possible to separate the absurd and the misleading from that which is true. And in this case it is particularly important to do so. For, as distinguished historian James H. Billington, a Rhodes Scholar who has been the Librarian of Congress since 1987, illustrates in his comprehensive and thoroughly documented 1980 study Fire in the Minds of Men: The Origins of the Revolutionary Faith, it is from “Bavarian Illuminism” that “the modern revolutionary tradition” descends.

In 1996, we asked the outstanding American expert on Bavarian Illuminism and revolutionary movements, William H. McIlhany, to provide a brief survey of the history and influence of the Order of the Illuminati based on the most reliable documentary sources. McIlhany, a noted author and historian, has appeared on The History Channel, The Discovery Channel, and many other television and radio programs. His detailed scholarship on the Illuminati, secret societies and subversive movements over the past 40 years — long before Dan Brown’s Da Vinci Code and Angels & Demons made them the subject of bizarre speculation and popular comic-book caricature — has involved research in the British Museum and Ingolstadt (now Eichstadt) University in Bavaria. His personal library of rare and primary source documents and scholarly literature on these subjects is perhaps the most extensive private collection in the United States. In 1986 he founded the Individualist Research Foundation. He is the author of five books, including Klandestine (1975), which helped to bring a murderer to justice as dramatically portrayed in the 1996 movie Ghosts of Mississippi.

The following essay first appeared in the September 16, 1996 issue of The New American under the title “Two Centuries of Intrigue,” accompanied by a three-page annotated bibliography.

Centuries of Intrigue
Down through the ages there have been many secret societies and conspiratorial movements that had as their goals absolute rule of the world, overthrow of all existing governments, and the final destruction of all religion. It is possible with much study to trace the origins and developments of many such movements: The early anti-Christian mysticism of the Gnostics; the conspiracy against orthodox Islam founded by Hasan Saba in Persia in 1090 AD as the Order of the Assassins; the apostate Order of the Knights Templar, whose heretical leaders imitated the Assassins’ system for the destruction of Christianity.

From the 13th through the 17th centuries such groups as the Luciferians, Rosicrucians, and the Levellers continued the war against Christianity that had begun in Europe with the Templars. Because a few organizational links can be found, it is even possible to establish that some of these groups were not merely imitating each other or some older system of belief. Many of these earlier movements, however, have left very fragmentary evidence, so it is not possible to trace from 1100-1700 any continuing organizational structure which was engaged in a coordinated and centrally controlled plot for world rule.

Early Associations
By the middle of the 18th century, remnants and parallels of various destructive movements began to associate under a central group which was to create a continuing organizational structure that would someday, its founders hoped, rule the world after all existing religions and governments had been destroyed. As Abbé Augustin Barruel documented in his invaluable study Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism, the intellectual base for this movement was laid in the mid-18th century by Voltaire, Rousseau, Diderot, and other members of the Paris Academy. This fraternity, which sought the destruction of Christian-style civilization, referred to itself grandly as the “Philosophes.”

Voltaire’s influence over King Frederick of Prussia and the publication of Diderot’s Encyclopédie, beginning in 1751, testified of the Philosophes’ early success. The conspirators hoped that the Encyclopédie would become a standard reference source wherein every literate person would seek knowledge on all subjects and thus receive propaganda against civil order and the Christian religion. Its publication caused the influence of this group to grow rapidly.

Voltaire bore an implacable hatred of all religions, of all monarchs, and of all morality derived from religious belief. He was obsessed with a fiendish desire for the total destruction of all three. He ended all his letters with the battle cry, “Let us crush the wretch! Crush the wretch!” The “wretch” to whom he referred, of course, is Christ and His Church. Christians, said Voltaire, are “beings exceedingly injurious, fanatics, thieves, dupes, imposters … enemies of the human race.” In the war against Christianity, according to Voltaire, “It is necessary to lie like a devil, not timidly and for a time, but boldly and always.”

Enter the Illuminati
Inspired by the radical Philosophes and instructed by a mysterious occultist named Kölmer from what is now Denmark, Adam Weishaupt, a professor of Canon Law at the University of Ingolstadt (in Bavaria, Germany) established a continuing organizational structure to direct the worldwide attack on religion and monarchy — a structure which would, he hoped, eventually rule the world. The organization Weishaupt founded on May 1, 1776 was called the Order of the Illuminati.

Weishaupt planned for the Order to maintain publicly the image of a charitable and philanthropic organization. It was this image which attracted so many German educators and Protestant clergymen to the Order. When they joined they were convinced that the goal of the Order was the purest form of Christianity, to make of all mankind “one happy and prosperous family.” Once enlisted as novices or “Minervals” in the Order, those who were prepared for deeper commitment were allowed to advance to the rank of Illuminatus Minor, where they were told that the only obstruction to the Order’s goal of universal happiness was the power being held by the religious and governmental institutions of the world. Accordingly, the leaders of these institutions — monarchs (or future monarchs) and clergymen — had either to be brought under the control of the Order or destroyed. If such a prospect frightened the new Illuminatus Minor, he was kept inactive at this level until his ethical concepts were altered.

As Weishaupt stated, “These [ruling] powers are despots when they do not conduct themselves by its [the Order’s] principles; and it is therefore our duty to surround them with its members, so that the profane may have no access to them. Thus we are able most powerfully to promote its [the Order’s] interests. If any person is more disposed to listen to Princes than to the Order, he is not fit for it, and must rise no higher. We must do our utmost to procure the advancement of Illuminati into all important civil offices.”

After the candidate had proven his absolute devotion to the secrets of the Order, he was allowed to enter the top-level circle of initiates as an Illuminatus Major, just below the position of Rex held by Weishaupt. By now, all conventional idealism had been purged from the candidate and he was told about the real objectives of the Order: rule of the world, to be accomplished after the destruction of all existing governments and religions. He was now required to take an oath which bound his every thought and action, and his fate, to the administration of his superiors in the Order.

But Weishaupt did not simply rely on the sincerity of his disciples. He set up an elaborate spy network so that all members would constantly be checking on the loyalty of each other. The secret police of the Order killed anyone who tried to inform the authorities about the conspiracy. This band was known as the “Insinuating Brethren” and had as its insignia an all-seeing eye.

The structure of the Order was pyramidal, with Weishaupt at the top. Beneath him were two or three immediate subordinates, each of whom had three men under his orders; each of those three had several men who carried out his dictates; and so on. In their correspondence, Illuminists were required to use code names for themselves. Weishaupt called himself Spartacus; others were Cato, Marius, Brutus, Pythagoras, Socrates, and Hannibal. Weishaupt, who had been raised and educated by the Jesuits before rebelling against them, adopted much of the organizational system of the Jesuits for his Order.

As a reward for selling himself totally to the Order, the top-level Illuminatus (of which there were few) was granted all the material and sensual benefits that could possibly be obtained. Weishaupt intended that “the power of the Order must be turned to the advantage of its members. All must be assisted. They must be preferred to all persons otherwise of equal merit. Money, services, honor, goods, and blood must be expended for the fully proved Brethren.”

This intricate conspiratorial structure among the economic, social, political, and cultural elite in Bavaria was tremendously successful: Within two years after the founding of the Order, all but two of the professorial chairs at the University of Ingolstadt were held by members of the Order. Furthermore, it is estimated that before 1789 there were at least 2,000 members of the Order in the German-speaking lands. Many of these were ministers, lawyers, doctors, and even a few princes. None were members of the lower classes, the agricultural working masses, or the serfs. The influence of the Order on German education and the German clergy was devastating. By 1800 many German ministers no longer believed the most basic tenets of Christian doctrine. They had been converted to the worship of “reason.”

Widening Influence
The original writings of the Order included detailed instructions for fomenting hatred and bloodshed between different racial, religious, and ethnic groups — and even between the sexes. The idea of promoting hatred between children and their parents was introduced. There were even instructions about the kinds of buildings to be burned in urban insurrections. In short, virtually every tactic employed by 20th-century subversives was planned and written down by Adam Weishaupt over 200 years ago.

It was not until the summer of 1782 that the Order really began to grow in power and influence outside Bavaria. Having already contemplated the possibility of infiltrating the freemasonic bodies of Western Europe and then taking control of them, Weishaupt and his brilliant disciple, Baron Adolf von Knigge (Philo), at last had their chance. During that summer, leaders and delegates of the continental European freemasonic bodies met in a congress held in Wilhelmsbad. Acting as Weishaupt’s agent, von Knigge joined them and offered enticing promises of the secrets that the Illuminati had to offer.

Von Knigge persuaded many of the German and French delegates to join Weishaupt’s movement, and they extended the influence of the Order into their individual lodges. The two leaders of German freemasonry, Duke Ferdinand of Brunswick and Prince Karl of Hesse, joined the Order, thus bringing the whole of German freemasonry under the control of the Illuminati.

French Connection
Another important new disciple was the French Count Honoré Gabriel Mirabeau, who was brought into the Order while in Germany and who was chosen to take Weishaupt’s system to France. Among Mirabeau’s most important recruits were the Duke of Orléans (Philippe Egalité), Brissot, Condorcet, Savalette, Grégoire, Garat, Pétion, Babeuf, Barnave, Sieyes, Saint-Just, Desmoulins, Hébert, Santerre, Danton, Marat, Chenier, and just about every other leader in the impending French Revolution.

The Duke of Orléans, leader of the Grand Orient Lodge in Paris, was a key Illuminatus. Through the Grand Orient lodges, the Illuminati created and controlled the Jacobin Club houses in Paris, through which the most violent and subversive revolutionaries were mobilized in anticipation of the revolution; Orléans and the Grand Orient were the crucial intermediary between the French radicals and Weishaupt’s directorate in Bavaria. However, even as critical instructions were being transmitted through this network, the Elector of Bavaria uncovered the entire plot.

The discovery of the plot was literally providential: A courier sent from Frankfort to Paris in 1785 was killed by a bolt of lightning. On his body were found incriminating papers about the Order and the name of Xavier Zwack. Zwack’s home in Landshut was raided by the Elector’s police and his copy of Weishaupt’s writings was taken. The Elector publicly outlawed the Order and closed many of the freemasonic lodges known to be under its control. The Elector also sent printed copies of the Order’s writings to all of the important monarchs in Europe. It was from copies of the Order’s writings that Abbé Barruel in France and the eminent Professor John Robison in England gathered the information contained in their important books — Barruel’s Memoirs and Robison’s Proofs of a Conspiracy.

The French Revolution was not a spontaneous uprising of the oppressed masses. In France, the ten years prior to 1789 had seen the development of greater social and political reform by the monarchy than ever before. The lot of the common people had steadily improved and there was no visible discontent due to economic misery. The upheaval was not a chance event, but an orchestrated effort to create a new political order.

The siege of the Bastille on July 14, 1789, an event which has been persistently misrepresented and romanticized, was an excellent example of how the Illuminati stage-managed the events of the French Revolution. Only one out of every thousand people in Paris participated in this “siege.” The incident was merely an attempt to obtain the guns and ammunition rumored to be in the Bastille so that those loyal Frenchmen who participated could use the weapons to put down a Jacobin disturbance in another part of Paris. Even though the guards at the Bastille did not know the true motive of the mob, only one of the 15 available cannons was fired at the crowd.

When the mob got inside the prison, they found only seven inmates, all of whom were living quite comfortably in this “horrible monstrosity of despotism”: Four forgers; two lunatics who were mad before they were imprisoned; and the Comte de Solages, who was incarcerated for “monstrous crimes” at the request of his family. Needless to say, they found none of the instruments of torture about which they had heard.

Not surprisingly, the clergy was singled out as an object of relentless persecution and eventual extermination. Churches were profaned and prostitutes were worshiped on their altars. The campaign to de-Christianize France included even the creation of a new calendar stripped of religious significance. Assaults were mounted against religious education, and the first conscription for military service was put into effect.

The rule of civil government and authority in Paris dropped to an unprecedented low during the Reign of Terror which began in 1794. The Terror also claimed the lives of many Illuminists as mob violence spun out of control.

Just before his execution in 1794, the Illuminist Robespierre, who had presided over much of the Terror, advocated the systematic extermination of 15 million Frenchmen so that the remaining food supplies would be adequate. Although this prototype ecological “depopulation” program was not fully implemented, the Terror did extinguish the lives of at least 300,000 Frenchmen — 297,000 of whom were members of the middle and lower agricultural and working classes. As always, the “people’s revolution” primarily victimized its alleged beneficiaries.

Suppression and Survival
In 1788, after the suppression of Illuminism in Bavaria, Karl Bahrdt and Baron von Knigge attempted to revive it under the name of the German Union, which soon came to control the book selling and publishing business in the German lands; this assured that only those books on religion, philosophy, and politics which were acceptable to the Order would be available and read by the public. However, it was not until 1810 that the Order was revived in what is now Germany, this time under the name of the Tugendbund.

But before then the Illuminists had already attempted to export Jacobin-style revolution to the infant United States. The U.S. was established as a constitutional republic in 1789, the same year the Illuminati’s devastation of France began. Shortly thereafter, agents of the Illuminati, such as French agitator Edward Genet, began organizing insurrectionary and secessionist movements to destroy the American Republic. Their efforts were delayed by widespread public exposure, thanks in no small measure to George Washington, who condemned “the nefarious, and dangerous plan, and doctrines of the Illuminati....” Another memorable warning was offered in a July 4, 1799 address by Timothy Dwight, president of Yale College.

By 1815, Weishaupt’s ambassadors had begun to extend their influence into many parts of the world beyond Bavaria and France. Among the personages and organizations responsible for extending the Illuminati’s infiltration and power throughout Europe were Filippo Michele Buonarroti and his Sublimes Maitres Parfaits (Sublime Perfect Masters), and Louis Auguste Blanqui and the Société des Saisons (Society of the Seasons). Those two branches of the Illuminati formed the source of the League of the Just, which commissioned Karl Marx to write the Communist Manifesto in 1848. Following publication of the Manifesto, the League of the Just changed its name to the Communist League. The Illuminists provided the unseen hand behind the staged communist revolts of 1848, which convulsed France, Austria-Hungary, and Russia. This inaugurated the era of communist subversion, infiltration, and control of governments across the globe — an era which has not ended, contrary to “polite” opinion.

As James H. Billington, a respected scholar who is now the Librarian of Congress, illustrates in his exhaustively documented 1980 study Fire in the Minds of Men: The Origins of the Revolutionary Faith, it is from “Bavarian Illuminism” that “the modern revolutionary tradition” descends. Among the subversive and revolutionary 19th- and early 20th-century movements created by the Illuminati (primarily through European Grand Orient freemasonry, not British and American freemasonry) were the Marxian and “utopian” socialist movements; anarchism; syndicalism; Pan Slavism; Irish, Italian and German “nationalism”; German Imperialism; the Paris Commune; British “New Imperialism”; Fabian Socialism; and Leninist Bolshevism.

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Zee said:

CFR? I looked up James Billinton and it says he is a member of the Council of Foreign Relations. of course the source is Wikipedia so its probably pretty weak or wrong. other places do not mention his CFR membership, can anyone else prove one way another. The message I am getting here is confusing. The NA says the CFR is bad then puts up an article about a book written by a CFR member. how can I trust this book about the Illuminati by a person who is part of a group pretty much trying to do the same thing?

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Flu-Bird said:

	Illuminaty followers of satan Its no doubp about it the illuminaty are followers of the devil big time satanists who foallow in lock-step with the other worshippers of satan just like the sinister ALASTER CROWLY and KARL MARX
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missmurphy said:

	maybe zee I was interested in the answer to your question and his name is on some rosters but not all. It is a fact, however, that he has written many articles for Foreign Affairs - the CFR journal.
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hipmonkey said:

David Icke isn't a loon Icke has done some great connecting of dots, granted iI leave the reptilian stuff out because I'm not sure what he means, but I have a problem with all of this. I believe there's a shadow goverment of elite, call them what you will. But I don't think there's a Jesus Christ and Devil to worry about, so I won't worry about that part. I do worry that greed is taking over the planet and everything is really messed up right now and getting worse.

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Zee said:

	... Thank you missmurphy for also checking into it. I saw the magazine but did not put it together that it was CFR. Contributing to the magazine especially with his knowledge about Russian politics and history might not mean anything, he is a writer after all, however if he is a member then I wonder. maybe the person who wrote up his info on WIki took his contributions as membership.
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V0t1v3 said:

	... Just awesome! Thanks!!
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Julie said:

	... That's a very good question about how we can trust this man. Here he is listed as a member of CFR: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/cfr-members.htm
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green orange said:

how sad how sad the world be controlled by such people. people such as barrack obama, the scapegoat, and that irani guy, mousavi. let me teach you more about how controlled by strings your world is. yesterday, or the day before, iranian television announced that ahmedinajad won the vote. mousavi says it was rigged. who knows? they said the second bush elections were rigged. sure, have a case and all. but what does mr heart-throb obama say? read what the obama party has to say... why the hell does he care? why is he "concerned", like the rest of the EU? "concerned" that it might have been rigged? concerned about the VIOLENCE (oh wow, one protester killed!) which he saw on *tv*? go find out more yourself. people die everywhere in the world, 40 people die everyday in kashmir, most of who havent even done anything... i ask mr obama (yea like hes gonna be on a page like this, or anyone who cares about him in the first place) TO F'IN OPEN YOUR EYES! oh i forgot he's an illuminatist. i have sources... which tell me that he is an illuminatist, a hardcore one, the first in a long time, allowing "us" (this was in the email) to finally regain control, and display our power, when the convergence arrives... revolution is near. pick up your weapons, go refresh your improvised weaponry skills, learn how to make food out of laptops, and you'll be fine! (the poor man's james bond is a good series... also try steal this computer book 3, because soon, computers will be the highly prized possesions of the elite, not free like they are now)

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Pathenry said:

Conspiracy Conspiracy "theory" is the boogey man today. But who has formed ANY government without planning and cooperation. Billington, even if CFR, has performed valuable service in showing the connections. But that aside, reread the other things mentioned: "But before then the Illuminists had already attempted to export Jacobin-style revolution to the infant United States. ...George Washington ... condemned “the nefarious, and dangerous plan, and doctrines of the Illuminati....” Another memorable warning was offered in a July 4, 1799 address by Timothy Dwight, president of Yale College." We ignore similar plans by similar demonized minds at our peril. And we can defeat them again in our day, as has been done before.

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Pathenry said:

	ANY, not (poor typo above; webmaster please delete ANT and put "ANY") Consider it done!
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xdarkknight6 said:

	... to add to that last comment i meant if the illuminati are behind revolution,good for them.Not behind the tyranny.
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Lee Gonzales said:

... Zee, While Dr. James Billington is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations it didn't seem to effect his research in writing about the Illuminati in his book "Fire In The Minds of Men." His book is as objective a treatment from a scholar with CFR credentials as you can get. Some past CFR members who have come out, or who planned on coming out against the CFR, have been Admiral Chester Ward. He co-wrote a book about the CFR with Eagle Forum Founder Phyllis Schafley. The late James Forrestal, our nation's first Secretary of Defense, was a member. To students of conspiracy we know that Forrestal was a patriotic American despite his membership in the CFR. Then there is the late Dr. Carroll Quigley from Georgetown University who wrote "Tragedy and Hope." This man was the Insider's house historian. His monumental work in writing about the CFR,(from the inside), has helped immensely in providing that "missing link" that critics of the conspiracy always level against us, which goes something like this:" why hasn't anyone from the inside ever come out to talk about the conspiracy?" The truth is that many have come out. Quigley is important in that he wrote about the CFR from the "inside" but he didn't mean to come out. He actually agreed with what the "network" as he called it was doing. So, Zee, the Billington book is good as a scholarly treatise and as another one of those from the "inside" who have come out and written about conspiracy, whether they mean to "come out" or not!

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Lee Gonzales said:

Xdarkknight6 has it all backwards Xdarkknight6 said:" The Illuminai were against government and religions,Good for them.I don't see government or religions really helping people live better lives today in our world.There is no freedom in America.The Constitution has been used as a tool of opression." Wow, has our public schools produced this kind of uneducated folk? Or has xdarkknight6 received this sort of misunderstanding of the founding of American from some other source other than the anti-Christian public schools? Since public schools don't teach anything connected to God, you have chance to rectify that misunderstanding about America's founding here:http://jbs.org/news-center/birchtube/70- FP02+Purpose+of+Original+IntentEducation+Of+Our+Founder s?userid=529 From the Declaration of Independence. "Laws of Nature and Nature's God." "men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalieanable rights.." Those aren't the words of a non religious people! The founding of America was founded by a people who made a covenant with the "Supreme Judge of the world!" I don't know where you get the idea that a world without religion,(Christianity is what you are saying isn't it?), would be a better world. Just in the 20th century non-relgious and anti-Jewish and anti-Christian dictators like Hitler,Lenin, Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot have emerged and have enslaved millions and murdered millions of people of all faiths or no faiths. Where do you get the idea that world would be better off without religion? If by religion you only mean the religion practiced by Christians who attend church on Sunday, how are these folks bothering you? And how have they contributed to the murder of millions of their fellow human beings by reading their Bibles and attending church? Perhaps what you are saying is that wolves in sheeps clothing have masqueraded as "Christians" and played "false prophet" in order to use Christians and religion in general to enslave and to murder their way to the top?

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xdarkknight6 said:

... lee gonzalez,you claim atheists murdered people.Well ever hear of the Crusades?How many people were killed in the name of God then,both Christians and Muslims? What about in the Bible where the Israelites are commanded by God to kill other arab tribes and take their lands? And let's not forget today's headlines,where we have militant Islamic extremists murdering themselves as suicide bombers all in the name of their God,and ruthless Israelis killing Palestinian civilians in their war for their "Holy Land". I used to be religious,and I know the attitude and have seen the attitude one adopts when they believe in God.I call it arrogance and false hope.Everything isn't ok,and an imaginary God(s)isn't going to solve all our problems as a people,we are. Yes,if religion turns me into a fanatical murderer,an apathetic drone,or an unreasonable person,then I can live without it.It's a free country,but I have the right to disagree with what's sold to me as the ultimate truth. As for my education it's doing quite well thank you.

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Lee Gonzales said:

If Christianty is not your cup of tea xdarkknight that's fine with me Volumes have been written proving that Stalin, Hitler and Mao commanded the massacre of millions of innocent human beings. What makes you think that they attended sunday services or Catholic Mass? Mao Tse Tung was vehemently anti-Christian. The Cultural Revolution in China took the lives of upwards of 60 million human beings. That is a part of history that even the most pro-communists in the media can not deny occurred. Darkknight, Is Ahmadinejad more political than religious? Are the people close to him more political than religious? Can it be that their "religion" is the religion of forcing their subjects to bow down to the all-mighty state? Secularist have their religion too-it's called the state, the government or the politcal party that runs the state or the government. If all organized religions of the world were to disappear would the world only be left with nice people who wouldn't try to take your property away or try to force their will upon you? Jesus commanded that we love our neighbor. He said to do good to those who would do you harm. Love your enemy He said. He told us that by their actions we shall know them. Do you think that our Lord would approve of the way "W" used his power to invent a war with Islam? No. Think for a second if the majority of Americans have the slightest interest in killing Moslems or that the majority of Moslems have any interest in killing Americans. The few who control the political power in both governments- the USA and Iran or any other Arab country have a vested interest in conducting war. But those are the few. Those who wield the political power and run the media in their respective countries are the trouble makers and war mongers. They are the ones who beat the war drums. Take it all the way back to the middle ages and you'll see both sides invading one another. If it had not been religion it would have been another reason. Man never runs out of reasons to try to control his fellow man.

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Zee said:

	... thank you Mr. Gonzales that was the information I was looking for when it came to billinton's membership. I knew about admiral ward but the others I did not know about. thank you for your in depth answer.
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Zee said:

darknight “,you claim atheists murdered people.Well ever hear of the Crusades?How many people were killed in the name of God then,both Christians and Muslims?” Wow dark knight when you have to pull out war from 900 years ago to back your argument, you got to stop and think maybe it’s a little weak. But speaking of history, you know the Far East really doesn’t go to war over religion; samurai and the Qin (or chin) dynasty fought and killed each other. MILLIONS of people died for these empires and not once in the name of a god. So a world of no religion is right next-door and guess what? its not so pretty. So much for your utopia. “Yes,if religion turns me into a fanatical murderer,an apathetic drone,or an unreasonable person,then I can live without it.It's a free country,but I have the right to disagree with what's sold to me as the ultimate truth.” Apathetic drone? I live in So-cal so apathetic drones surround me and it’s not due to religion it’s the constant banality of existence based on possession, greed and self-satisfaction, empty souls that try to fill its void with the riches of the world. I don’t know your religious experiences and I am sorry you have not had positive one like myself where my spirituality puts the entire world into perspective and helps to center me, I do not use it as a weapon but as a stable platform to move forward with conscious thought that all actions we do ripple across the world of man as well as in the eternal. So yes it is a free country but that is in thanks to those who believed in the divine, so enjoy your freedoms upon the backs of those that believed so that you do not.

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Zee said:

Anarchy? As far as ‘good for the Illuminati destroying the government’, I think you misunderstand that they wish to replace it with their own form of government. Statelessness is a fairy tale. Lack of laws equals anarchy and anarchy equals ‘might makes right’. Wanting to live in a world of self-laws and anarchy is akin to wishing that unicorns would rule the world (a uniocracy?) limited republican-government is the best way, however we the people need to always watch and limit its powers (such as those laid down by the constitution) but we have failed because of apathy or subterfuge of the state. The laws of science and nature are themselves relative to those who enforce them. Nature is a brutal dictatorship of power and violence (even dolphins keep slaves). Science as a law is stupid; hydrothermal-dynamics is no way to run a legal system. Science is an extension of nature, which is an extension of the natural man, which is domination. Law of science and nature in a pure form for greater good is a pipe dream, just as reaching a total theocracy of perfection like Enoch. Science and Nature will never free us.

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Thomas Paine said:

Freemasons are connected On 9/11 in 1826 William Morgan was kidnapped for threatening to expose Freemason Secrets. This is a big date to the Freemasons. IE: keep your mouth shut. On 9/11/1990 George Bush Senior made his famous speech to Congress about the New World Order comming into view. On 9/11/2001, an inside plot by secret elements committed the largest crime of the century in order to get the Oil from Iraq, and put a pipeline in Afganistan to promote the NWO. (See Aaron Russo interview and Architects and Engineers for Truth). We must expose the crime of 911 to give our country back to the Judeo/Christian values of Justice for all.

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June 26, 2009
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Locke said:

... xdarkknight6 is the product of the Marxist idea of public education. Yes. The vomit of a poorly developed mind. Witness it people, because it's just going to get worse. What concerns me, though, is that these kind of minds think they're right . . . about everything. Criticism is unheeded, others' opinions slapped aside, reason lost to opinions assumed as truth. This one is entertaining a heavy conscience and his only justification is to run away and hope above hope that there is no God. Well there is, Cap. There is. And He will judge you. He will judge us all.

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July 10, 2009
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