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| Vatican and Traditional Catholics Meet | | Print | |
| Written by James Heiser | ||
| Monday, 26 October 2009 19:00 | ||
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Lefebvre and five others were automatically excommunicated in 1988, when he consecrated four bishops. However, the excommunication of the four surviving bishops was lifted earlier this year as part of the present pope’s outreach to the Traditionalist Catholics. The Vatican said the three-hour talks with a delegation from the Society of St. Pius X were held in a "cordial, respectful and constructive climate" and would continue frequently over the coming months. Media reports have attempted to relegate the concerns of the traditionalists to Ecumenism, and “outreach to Jews” in particular; much of the attention has centered on Bishop Richard Williamson’s disbelief in the claim that six million Jews were exterminated in the Holocaust. In the words of the AP article: The outcry was immediate, with both Jews and members of the Catholic hierarchy criticizing the pope's rehabilitation of a Holocaust-denier. While condemning Williamson's remarks, the Vatican defended its decision, only saying later that it hadn't known about his very public views about the Holocaust. The Vatican has set out particular conditions for Williamson to be fully brought back in, saying he must "absolutely and unequivocally" distance himself from his Holocaust remarks, if he ever wants to be a prelate in the church. Williamson has apologized for causing scandal to the pope but hasn't publicly repudiated his views. So, too, Reuters emphasized the Holocaust ‘angle’ to the story: One of the Council's major documents, "Nostra Aetate" (In Our Times) repudiated the concept of collective Jewish guilt for Christ's death and urged dialogue with all major religions. They called on the pope not to let the talks "trivialize the memory" of Holocaust victims by giving in too much to a group they see as anti-Semitic and which critics say wants to turn the clock back on 40 years of progress in inter-religious dialogue. But the concerns of traditionalists pertaining to the Second Vatican Council extend to what they saw as the influence of a Modernist agenda on a whole host of issues which certainly included Ecumenism, and also included matters such as liturgical reforms. The Rev. Robert Gahl, professor of moral philosophy at the pontifical university of the Holy Cross, said "some of these Lefebvrites understand tradition as a way that everything has to be fixed exactly the way it was back in the past, using the same words in the liturgy, celebrating Mass with the same gestures." "Instead Pope Benedict says we need to celebrate Mass with continuity with the past, with that tradition, but there can be changes that are dynamic, just like a living organism," he told Associated Press Television News. According to Dr. Robert Moynihan’s analysis at The Moynihan Report, the “real, fundamental issue” at stake in the talks with the SSPX is: Did the Second Vatican Council teach new doctrines not in keeping with prior Church teaching, and so lead the Church into error (as the Society of St. Pius X, and other traditional Catholics, have often argued)? And he has sent his chosen men into this dialogue to show the Lefebvrists how it can be done. Reconciliation between Rome and the SSPX would not, of itself, resolve the Reformation-era divisions of the Church, or the even older division between the East and the West, but it would affirm for the various churches the “Rome” with which they are in dialog. Photo: AP Images Trackback(0)
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... One of the definitions of "church" is "a congregation of Christians". In this context, a congregation is an assemblage of people. What people? Christians. What is a Christian? Disciples of Jesus, first called Christians in Antioch, also called Followers of the Way (the Way being Jesus). For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them. - Matthew 18:20 So, actually, the church is wherever two or more disciples of Jesus are gathered together. The true church is the spiritual aggregation of all true believers in Jesus Christ. Organized "churches" are earth-bound organizations which purport to serve individual "Christians" in some capacity. What happens is that the members end up serving the man-made organizations instead of Jesus Christ. True believers are always a part of the church, but may or may not belong to some religious organization calling itself a church. Not all members of said religious organizations are true believers, thus not member of the one true church. |





According to media reports, Pope Benedict XVI is continuing his efforts to return some disaffected Catholic traditionalists to the “fold.” In the wake of the Second Vatican Council, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the 

