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| Strategic Defaults: Morality vs. Reality | | Print | |
| Written by Bob Adelmann | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Thursday, 08 April 2010 17:36 | ||||||||||||||||||||
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In January, 2006, a young professional couple with two children bought a three-bedroom home in Salinas, California, for $585,000. With excellent credit, they signed the papers for a no-money-down, 30-year, fixed-rate mortgage, with payments of $4,300 a month. Today, the balance they owe is $560,000, but the present market value of their home is estimated to be about $187,000. Here is their dilemma: They made a promise, and signed on the dotted line, fully expecting to make timely payments over the term of the loan. But there is a home for rent just down the street with payments of just $1,000 a month. Assuming they intend to stay in their home ten years, [the homeowners] would save approximately $340,000 by walking away, including a monthly savings of at least $1,700 on rent verses mortgage payments, even after factoring in the mortgage interest tax reduction. If they stay in their home, on the other hand, it will take [the homeowners] over 60 years just to recover their equity — assuming, of course, that they live that long. A strategic default is sometimes called “jingle mail,” where the house keys are simply mailed to the bank holding the mortgage. But an increasing number of people are taking the default strategy to the next level, stopping making payments but continuing to live in the house until the bank kicks them out. The foreclosure process, as discussed here, can take as long as a year, during which the savings between renting and making mortgage payments could be put aside as a down payment on another home with better prospects. A study by Experian and Wyman estimated that nearly one in five homeowners holding underwater mortgages is strategically defaulting. Photo: AP Images
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jc
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Is this a real example, down 70% since 2006? Is the current value of $187K based on an anticipated distress sale at foreclosure or is this the current appraised value? Down 70% in 50 months, is Salinas the worst RE market in the universe? It seems impossible. If CA RE markets are down this much what happens when ARMs must be refinanced in big numbers the next 2 years? Down 90-95%? |
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Patriot1776
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... Under normal circumstances I would agree with the author that "walking away" would be immoral but these are not normal circumstances. We live under a debt as money system where banks create money out of nothing and the loan it to people at interest. It's an impossible situation and the problem is the corrupt laws and Federal Reserve that enable this scheme. The American people are the victims here. |
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rprew
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Stupidity $4300 per month? Assuming that is PITI (principal-interest-taxes-insurance), and adding in cost of utilities (electric, gas, water, sewer, cable, telephone, waste pickup) at a very conservative $300 per month, that comes to $55,200 per year for housing expense. Traditional wisdom dictates that a family should spend 30-36% of its income for housing, this family would need a income of AT LEAST $165,000 per year to justify having this home. If after 4 years they still owe $560,000 on a $585,000 home, they would have bought the house for about 4% down. Again, traditional wisdom dictates that the minimum down payment should be at least 10%, and 20% would be much more reasonable. I'm sorry, but lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part. You made your bed... now sleep in it. The people I feel sorry for are the ones who have played the game fairly (20% down, total housing costs (payments, utilities, taxes, insurance) of about 1/3 of their income, but lose their job because it could be done cheaper in China. |
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Money Matters
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... Patriot1776 puts it well. The issue at heart is the fact that banks create loan monies out of thin air. In defaults, they lose nothing but are merely denied further interest payments. For defaults to be a moral issue, someone has to lose something they worked for. A personal loan made by someone who earned the money from a 40-hour work week represents labor value. In defaulting, the borrower denies the lender of his labor value. Therefore, it is a moral obligation to repay. Bank loans are funded by keystroke so defaults deny no one of his labor's value. Therefore, there is no moral obligation to repay, only a legal one. |
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CAS
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... Yes JC it is possible in CA to lose that much. I live in Patterson CA and bought a 440k house with a 360k mortgage in 2006. It is now worth 175k, but even at that price homes aren't selling. Homes in the 130-140k range are. The only reason prices were so high back then is because the banks lent money to who ever they could, they never verified anything. People were buying and putting houses back on the market without even living in them and making a profit. Massive amounts of mortgage fraud and greed. Of course no one has been brought to justice and I'm left holding the bag and paying for it. The banks have been bailed out and are back to paying huge bonuses and making profit. As far as I'm concerned if this new "hamp" program doesn't lower the value of my home to its current market value then I will also walk away. I have little hope that the program will work. Iam sure they will say I make too much money of find some other bs reason to deny me. Ive talked to my family and co-workers about all of this and everyone understands our situation and is supportive. Ive been working and paying taxes since I was 15, for 27 years, and Im disgusted with how f'ed up this country has become, so if you dont like the strategic default you can kiss my tax paying a$$. Until you find yourself in this situation you will never understand how f'ed up it is. |
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