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Monday, 03 August 2009 10:50

pacifierIt's hard to imagine anything more evil: a woman kills a friend so that she can steal her unborn baby by ripping it from her womb.

But it has happened before in recent years, and now it has happened again in Worcester, Massachusetts. Boston.com reports on the crime, writing,

Julie Corey, 35, had lived with her parents for several months over the last year before returning to Worcester and telling acquaintances she was pregnant.

Police believe that Corey never gave birth, that she may have faked her pregnancy, and that the newborn girl she was showing off last weekend was really the daughter of Darlene Haynes, a 23-year-old mother of three who had been eight months pregnant before she was found dead in her Worcester home on Monday [7/27], her child ripped from her womb.

Despite this ordeal, the baby is in good shape and is expected to survive. Sadly, she — and Haynes' three other children — will now have to do so without their mother.

The profound evil inherent in Corey's crime is self-evident and needs no elaboration. Yet the larger issues this event raises certainly warrant such. 

The most perilous place you can be today is inside a womb, as your life hinges on the most arbitrary of standards, unencumbered by logic or reason. And no matter where you stand on the abortion issue, this is indisputable. After all, it's not just that so many cannot decide when human life begins; it's that they act as if it begins at different times depending on the situation.

For example, no one would now be allowed to kill Haynes' eight-month-old baby — or a child born prematurely after five months. Yet an abortionist may legally murder a child at either of those stages, or any other, as long as the child is inside the womb. Can even a proponent of abortion say that this makes sense? The right to life is preeminent, and if human rights are at the mercy of location, then it seems as if Kim Jong-il, Raul Castro, and every other tyrant have just been given a handy argument. After all, people may enjoy more rights in the United States, but this isn't North Korea or Cuba. If 10 inches from the womb can be the difference between life and death, then 10,000 miles can certainly be.

It is not only location that determines whether the child will be thought human, but also who his executioner happens to be. For example, there have been many cases in which a man was charged with a double murder for killing a pregnant woman. Yet, if that woman had decided to kill the baby herself, it would suddenly be an "unviable tissue mass." Does this make any sense? If you're pro-abortion, I would like to ask you how you reconcile these contradictions in our laws. Clearly, a fair-minded person — regardless of where he stands on abortion — must admit that we haven't settled this issue as a society at all. All we have done is avoid inconvenient questions with convenient laws.

And using convenience as a yardstick certainly isn't unprecedented. In fact, Clark University philosophy professor Michael Pakaluk tells us of a very interesting precedent in his essay "Questions for Pro-Choice People," writing:

Does the following seem to you a reasonable statement of the pro-choice view?:

If each person will only agree to mind his own business, and leave his neighbors alone, there will be peace forever between us.... I am now speaking of rights under the constitution [sic], and not of moral or religious rights.... It is for women to decide ... the moral and religious right of the abortion question for themselves within their own limits.... I repeat that the principle is the right of each woman to decide this abortion question for herself, to have an abortion or not, as she chooses, and it does not become a pro-lifer, or anybody else, to tell her she has no conscience, that she is living in a state of iniquity.... We have enough objects of charity at home, and it is our duty to take care of our own poor, and our own suffering, before we go abroad to intermeddle with other people's business.

Pakaluk then explains how he formulated the above argument, saying, "I arrived at that quotation by taking one of Stephen Douglas's defenses of slavery, and substituting 'abortion' for 'slavery'; 'woman' for 'state'; and 'a pro-lifer' for 'Mr. Lincoln.'" And a little later the professor asks abortion proponents a question that begs to be answered:

"Doesn't the similarity between your defense of abortion, and Douglas' defense of slavery, bother you in any way? Does it raise in your mind any suspicions at all that you might just be on the wrong side?"

Note how Douglas, the pro-slavery advocate, emphasized that he was "now speaking of rights under the constitution [sic], and not of moral or religious rights" — just like today's abortion proponents. Of course, other than acknowledging defeat, Douglas had no other recourse. It's very difficult to argue for an immoral practice in the moral realm with any success, so he had to resort to a legalistic argument — just like today's abortion proponents.

Yet, today's abortion defenders have one advantage (although, to be precise, nothing that helps us perpetuate a fallacy is good for us, even if we don't realize it at the moment) pro-slavery people never enjoyed: a thoroughly relativistic society. That is to say, today right and wrong are often fancied to be a matter of opinion.

This matters for a very simple reason. If people believe in Moral Truth, they will understand that morality is something real, something originating beyond man, something non-negotiable. It then follows that, far from subordinating it to a discussion of man's law, the latter must in fact be subject to morality. Man's law must reflect God's law, or it simply isn't good law.

Once believing that there is no Truth, however, it follows that "morality" is merely values and values are opinion. And what will determine opinion? Well, without any objective moral reality to refer to, the only yardstick we have available is emotion. Sure, it may be the consensus feelings of the collective, but it's emotion nonetheless. And, of course, it is a most mercurial master, changing with the wind. Emotion also doesn't care about logic or reason, it doesn't care about ideas, it doesn't care about inconsistency. It just cares about what pleases, and it preaches "If it feels good, do it." And one thing that certainly feels good is convenience.  

Another implication of atheism is that in the absence of God's law, man's law becomes the only law. In light of this, is it any wonder that today's secularists get lost in a sea of legalistic arguments? Man's law may not be much when divorced from morality, but at least it's real to the modern man, whereas God's law is just imaginary.

Of course, the most logical argument in favor of abortion is in fact derived from atheistic philosophy. To wit: if we have no souls, we are then merely organic robots, and human life then can be no more sacred than that of a fly. This, not to mention the fact that if right and wrong don't really exist in an absolute sense, abortion cannot be wrong. It's atheism taken to its logical conclusion, and to thoroughly integrate the idea into your mind and heart is to be, I believe, a sociopath. After all, how can you have a conscience if there is nothing to be conscientious about?

But to accept atheism and all its implications thoroughly is also to devalue your own life; it is to render values meaningless and life without meaning. It is to unmoor man completely from morality, so that only might can make right. All you can then do is hope that you are the mightiest — or, at least, not too inconvenient.

 

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Greg said:

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Hate to break it to you, but religion doesn't own the patent on morality.

Objective morality is a myth. All morality is subjective to the culture you are born in. Your religious culture just happens to be one (out of many) that claims its morality is absolute.

Lying isn't always wrong.
(Or would you turn in your Jewish neighbors to the Nazis?)
Killing isn't always murder.
(Self defense, accidental manslaughter, negligent homocide)
The world isn't just black and white.

The world is a vast grey area with islands of contrast. Its subjective. I'm thankful people like you don't make all the decisions.

I resent your mis-caricaturization of a philosophy you fear and subsequently demonize. The subjective truth, from my side, is that to accept atheism and all its implications thoroughly is also to value your own life... because its the only one you get. smilies/wink.gif
 
August 03, 2009
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sarah said:

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i absolutely agree with the above poster. i was a foolish romantic, and have had to deal with the consequences of that - my son. it would have been all too easy for me to have an abortion, but i feel, because of my own personally-arrive-at morality, that killing is wrong, outside of the above-mentioned extenuating circumstances. there is a law greater than man, and that is nature. we are not the end-all, be-all of creation, as so many christians like to claim. my child has no less right to live than i, and i cannot bring myself to consider seriously the idea of halting the development of one who is a result of my own life, my actions.
i find it disgusting that you assume that atheists hold the monopoly on immorality. there are plenty of places where the religious contradict their supposed love of humanity. many of us who do not hold to any religion feel just as in awe of the world and universe as you who believe it was created for your own sake, just in a different way. while it may be terrifically 'convenient' for you to see us as somehow lesser or worse than your view of things, there are many of us who would help you in your most treasured ventures, if only you would stop stigmatising us!
 
August 03, 2009
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Tim said:

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Greg, I couldn't have put it better myself. If you're not with christianity you are against it. Funny how EVERY religion in the history of mankind follows this logical fallacy.
 
August 03, 2009
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jessica said:

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omg that is soooo sad i cant belive that someone would do that !!! so sad ...smilies/sad.gif hopefully the woman who did this gets put to death...
 
August 03, 2009
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Kieran said:

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"Another implication of atheism is that in the absence of God's law, man's law becomes the only law."

Sounds lovely. But what is god's law? Who defines it?

If you're happy to cite the bible as "god's law", that's a catalog of atrocities without equal. Genocide, witch-burning, rape, infanticide, bigotry, racism and death penalties (by barbaric means, like stoning) for trivial crimes.

How can you tell which bits of the bible are "god's law" and which bits are irredeemably evil (like most of the old testament)? Whatever means you use to work out which bits of the bible are worth following is immediately a better moral guide than the bible itself.

If god resembles the character out of the old testament, I'd rather look to Darth Vader for moral guidance.
 
August 03, 2009
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Jorg said:

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Pakaluk's analogy is about the weakest I have ever seen. Without getting into the problems with which it is fraught, all I can say is: I am glad that I do not know you, since I would no want to know anyone who admits that killing someone would be an option without a super-watcher glaring over his shoulder.
 
August 04, 2009
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Simon said:

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I strongly object to a couple of things in this article:

Firstly, I agree with Kieran's comment, the Bible is full of even more horrendous acts approved by God (including ripping open the wombs of pregnant women to kill them AND their babies) than the alleged murder in this article.

Secondly, I object to the insinuation that atheists are all pro-abortionists. I am staggered if it is true in the USA that you can abort a baby as late as 8 months, you certainly can't do that here in the UK. The abortion issue is an incredibly difficult and complicated one, and it deserves a far more sensitive, grown-up debate than simply assuming everyone is divided into 2 distinct camps: religionists who apparently are anti-abortion in all circumstances, and atheists who are apparently raging baby killers.
 
August 04, 2009
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stoat100 said:

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The irony...
You fundies will love this: morality does not come from Allah (I assume that was the god you were talking about?).

It comes from... evolution! Societies in which individuals do not murder each other have some pretty clear advantages... smilies/wink.gif
 
August 04, 2009
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bobbob said:

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This article is chock full of emotive language. Maybe if you took a step back at looked at this logically you might see a little more sense.

Is your average woman an executioner once a month when she rejects her ova, or the average man an murderer when he masturbates? What do you do with your toenail clippings? they contain enough genetic material to clone you.

There is no such thing as object morality. I can however objectively state that this article is complete and utter rubbish.
 
August 04, 2009
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Robert Stovold said:

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Biblical morality
The Bible actually sanctions the use of a potion that induces a miscarriage in unfaithful women:

"If she has defiled herself and been unfaithful to her husband, then when she is made to drink the water that brings a curse, it will go into her and cause bitter suffering; her abdomen will swell and her thigh waste away, [footnote: suffering; she will have barrenness and a miscarrying womb ] and she will become accursed among her people. If, however, the woman has not defiled herself and is free from impurity, she will be cleared of guilt and will be able to have children". (Numbers 5:27-2smilies/cool.gif

Not exactly pro-life, is it?
 
August 04, 2009 | url
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Leyna said:

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I agree with Greg. Morality in many ways is innate. Our greatest tool of survival is our brain, otherwise humans are very ill equipped. We have no claws, sharp teeth, fur, we aren't particularly strong so we use our brains. We have evolved through our social nature. Morality exists to maintain social cohesion. The Bible doesn't have to tell us that murder is wrong for us to know that if one member of a group kills someone, it's bad business.
 
August 04, 2009
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thepuppettheatre said:

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You Scare Me
For example, there have been many cases in which a man was charged with a double murder for killing a pregnant woman. Yet, if that woman had decided to kill the baby herself, it would suddenly be an "unviable tissue mass." Does this make any sense?
That's the most terrifying thing I have heard in a long time.

You really see no difference in a woman voluntarily having a clump of cells removed and the murder of a fully developed woman? You think that a clump of cells, or even a more developed fetus, has more right to protection than a grown woman? If it comes to deciding between a fully developed person, and a fetus that *might* live to be a fully developed person... the choice should be very clear.

I find you absolutely terrifying. If you are the gift given to us by religion... I'll take atheism (or Darth Vader) any day. You're one sick puppy and I hope the police are watching you.
 
August 04, 2009
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Skeptici said:

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"Of course, the most logical argument in favor of abortion is in fact derived from atheistic philosophy. To wit: if we have no souls, we are then merely organic robots, and human life then can be no more sacred than that of a fly. This, not to mention the fact that if right and wrong don't really exist in an absolute sense, abortion cannot be wrong."


I would think the most logical argument in favor of abortion is in fact derived from Christianity itself. To wit: Christians follow a God who warrants eternal torture to those who "commit sin" during their finite lives. No moral Christian would put a new life at risk of being tortured for eternity - moral Christians would therefore refrain from giving birth to Children. If a Christian is pregnant, then that Christian would indeed sacrifice the well-being of her own soul; to save countless generations from eternal suffering - and would therefore have an abortion.

If the well-being of life is sacred to the Christian, then the Christian would refrain from gambling with the well-being of others - they wouldn't give birth to children. Because they continue to give birth to others, I can only assume that life isn't sacred to the Christian. I can also assume they are pro-torture - something most civilized people find immoral.
 
August 04, 2009
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Mr. Tsk Tsk said:

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Why America may be beyond hope
And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
 
August 21, 2009
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