| Torture: Obama Equivocates, Conyers Investigates | | Print | |
| Written by Thomas R. Eddlem | ||||||||||||||||
| Wednesday, 22 April 2009 09:00 | ||||||||||||||||
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That statement is all but a flat-out contradiction of his statement just five days earlier, when he essentially ruled out any prosecutions against the torturers, the officials who ordered the torture, and those who provided the pseudo-legal cover for the torturers. “It is our intention to assure those who carried out their duties relying in good faith upon legal advice from the Department of Justice that they will not be subject to prosecution,” Obama said, adding that “nothing will be gained by spending our time and energy laying blame for the past.” Well, let's — instead of referring to what anybody might have said, I think it's important — or anything that I might have said — it's important to refer to what the President said, and what he said over the course of many months, in all honestly, because this dates back to questions that has received in press conferences or even during the transition, and that is, very much as he said — reiterated today, that he says as a general deal, I think we should be looking forward and not backward. The President has also said he does not believe that people are above the rule of law. And the President stated accurately that any determination as to whether a law was broken would rightly be made not by the President but by the chief law enforcement officer of the United States. Would there be any criminal probes? Gibbs didn’t say “yes” and he didn’t say “no.” Anyone able to navigate through his gibberish response is supposed to take whatever he wants to out of his words. It, like just about everything coming out of the Obama White House since the beginning of February, was a political Rorschach test. The stakes for criminal prosecutions couldn’t be higher, however. The felony torture statute calls for up to 20 years in prison for anyone conducting torture or for anyone “conspiring” to torture. Under such a statutory construction, the information already available in the public domain is enough to remove any reasonable doubt about the guilt of the torturers themselves, the policymakers in the Bush administration who pushed the torture, or the Justice Department officials who gave a pseudo-legal veneer to the torture.
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Thomas Paine
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Some report on torturing one of the "911 terrorists" One released report said they waterboarded one of the suspected terrorists 100 times in one month! If this is true, and the guy was innocent, then how can this not be a war crime. Even if he was not innocent (which is unlikely regarding 911 as it was a hoax), such extensive torture should be criminal. |
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Matt
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The Nation's Honor demands Prosecution There is no rational justification for torture. It is a terrible, immoral and dehumanizing thing to do. No real American would agree to torture anybody. Besides, it is illegal. President Obama and all the president's men, cannot change this fact. Our nation's honor demands everyone involved in torture be prosecuted to the full extent possible. |
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homer
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Are Democrats too compromised to have criminals investigations One must wonder how many members of COngress are criminally compromised by government phone taps and criminal investigations to be able to ever support any criminal investigations. Where would they stop? Obama's use of his Blackberry has probably compromised him. |
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Jon
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... That there was torture is not subjest to debate; there was torture, and those responsible must be held accountable, even if it means putting George Bush and Dick Cheney in jail. It would also be instructive to know why torture was used. Since everyone agrees that torture does not yield useful information maybe the idea was not to get the truth, but to extract lies that backed up The Administration's propaganda that al-Quaeda and Saddam were co-conspiritors in the 911 attacks. There is also the fact that these acts were ordered and carried out by depraved and degenerate persons, and depravity might be the sole motive for the acts. In this regard we witness so many psycho-sexual acts, acts that those religious fundamentalists seem to fantasize about by try to keep in check with their Bible banging. |
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